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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Ven 27 Mai - 9:20
Bon vu les essais d'aujourd'hui c'est clair que ça va être dur !
Pratiquement pas tournés ce matin, pas beaucoup et très loin cet après-midi...
La peur de péter le moteur sans doute ?
Espérons qu'ils fassent le bon choix de pneus et de réglages.

C'est finalement pas une pénalit de 3 courses mais de 4 que subit BAR-Honda pour l'instant !

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le Ven 27 Mai - 16:18
iaka a écrit:C'est finalement pas une pénalit de 3 courses mais de 4 que subit BAR-Honda pour l'instant !
Eh oui, c'est cela qui est rageant ... et j'ai bien peur que le moteur va de toute façon se casser en courses et rentrer bredouille sans aucun point ...
Alors, tant qu'à faire, vaut mieux les changer avant la course ... ou péter un temps lors des qualifs avec les anciens moteurs, bien se qualifier et les changer ensuite ...

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le Ven 27 Mai - 17:27
Erwinminator a écrit:
iaka a écrit:C'est finalement pas une pénalit de 3 courses mais de 4 que subit BAR-Honda pour l'instant !
Eh oui, c'est cela qui est rageant ... et j'ai bien peur que le moteur va de toute façon se casser en courses et rentrer bredouille sans aucun point ...
Alors, tant qu'à faire, vaut mieux les changer avant la course ... ou péter un temps lors des qualifs avec les anciens moteurs, bien se qualifier et les changer ensuite ...

ah ben enfin, tu te ranges dans le camp de ceux qui pensent comme moi........ehehehe
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le Ven 27 Mai - 17:35
Bah c'est (comme tu le disais) : chou vert, vert chou, l'un comme dans l'autre, on est mal barré de toute façon ... sbof

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le Ven 27 Mai - 19:07
Erwinminator a écrit:Bah c'est (comme tu le disais) : chou vert, vert chou, l'un comme dans l'autre, on est mal barré de toute façon ... sbof

ton pessimisme, me laisse de marbre, autant je me disais qu'en début de saison ce serait dur, là on sait que la cage est performante mais ils se retrouvent dans de mauvaises conditions, mais nom d'un chien, une course c'est long il peut arriver tellement de choses, alors certes ils risquent de se vautrer à cause de cet imbécile de mosley, mais j'ai bon espoir de les voir au moins rentrer dans les points, et puis attendons déja les qualifs demain avant de tirer sur la comète...........allez erwinator une note d'optimisme est dorénavant requis de ta part.
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le Sam 28 Mai - 11:07
Tu disais ???

Un excès d'optimisme n'est pas n'ont plus très souhaitable car le soufflet qui se dégonfle sera un coup dur au moral ...

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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Ven 3 Juin - 12:49
Vol. 54 Rd. 7 Europe GP --- 3/6/05

We expected better results. We are really disappointed.

After two races ban, Europe GP became their come-back race. Because of their handicapped running orders in the qualifying, Button started on the 13rd grid and Takuma did on the 16th grid. Both finished race, though, they didn't have a good pace during the race. After all, they finished in the 10th and the 12th place.

Nakamoto: Soon after Button started racing, the terrible over steering happened. The rear tires wore faster than we had expected. When he came to the pit first, we adjusted the front wing's flap and air-pressure of the tires, though, we couldn't correct the problem. At that point, the game was over, I think.

The second problem was that we didn't refuel more than we had expected in Button's car at his first pit-stop. It would last till the 46th lap. But we should have refueled more because we knew that Button was going to in the traffic jam on the track. We should have acted case by case. It made a contrast between Button and Fisi who kept running till the 50th lap and got the 6th place. This is what we have to re-think. It was a fault of the strategy.

-- Is it the difference between Button's result and Fisi's?

Nakamoto: Renault's car set-up was better. And anyway, the game was over at that point, so, we let Button reduce speed and keep running safety after the pit-stop.

On the other hand, Taku was bothered with over steering, too. So, we adjusted his car as well and he could run faster than Button. Once his time dropped to on 1' 34", and then, he changed driving and kept on 1' 32". In today's condition, he did a good job.

-- Was there something relationship between the heavier fuel and the over steering?

Nakamoto: Nothing. We couldn't test for a long-distance, when we had to choose our tires for the qualifying and the GP. We couldn't expect such terrible over steering would happen.

The longest run during the free session was 17 laps. It was not non-stop run. So, the tire's changing way was different from the race. At the first corner in the race, sounds like that it was awful. They couldn't cut the steering, nor step on the accelerator. That's why, we are disappointed so much. We expected Button finishing on the 6th and Taku within the 10th in spite of changing the front nose.

-- This time, it was not related to the aerodynamic thing and the problem was tire choice?

Nakamoto: There's possibility that it may have been wrong that we chose soft-compound tires. But, more than that, we couldn't do car-set-up which suits to the tires characteristic enough. Since we have to run a long-distance with one tyre set, at first, the car becomes under steering, and then, neutral, in the end, over steering and it's natural. But it's out of question if the car becomes over staring at first. So, it was our defeat here.

Technically, there was no problem with the engines which were sealed for five weeks. At the next GP in Canada, we'll introduce another new spec engines. The car will be modified dramatically. In Canada and Indy, their circuits were low-downforce. So, we'll prepare the aero which can reduce the drag. The running orders in the qualifying will be in the middle. We'll make a fresh start in Canada!! chinois
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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Ven 3 Juin - 14:47
merci muku une fois de plus pour ces rapports vraiment intéressant.
donc en résumé ça va charcler au canada c'est bien ce que je pensais.
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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Ven 3 Juin - 17:44
Erwinminator a écrit:
Un excès d'optimisme n'est pas n'ont plus très souhaitable car le soufflet qui se dégonfle sera un coup dur au moral ...
Wait and see ... Cool Cool Cool

Thanks for the briefing Muku ... chinois

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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Ven 3 Juin - 18:53
Erwinminator a écrit:
Erwinminator a écrit:
Un excès d'optimisme n'est pas n'ont plus très souhaitable car le soufflet qui se dégonfle sera un coup dur au moral ...
Wait and see ... Cool Cool Cool

tu me gonfles avec tes "wait and see" humour on a assez "waiter" comme ça et on a pas "see" grand chose.
donc plus de "wait" mais que du "see" et même plus, de la démonstration................
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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Ven 3 Juin - 19:25
soichiro a écrit:on a pas "see" grand chose.
Justement ...
soichiro a écrit:donc plus de "wait" mais que du "see" et même plus, de la démonstration................
Où est cette démonstration ??? On a tjrs 0 point au compteur ... (chut, pas trop fort !!! colère colere2 faut pas que Pommette voit ça !!!) Mr. Green

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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Sam 4 Juin - 13:05
Notre commentateur Japonais était optimiste pour BAR-Honda à Canada GP, mais, n'était pas trop optimiste.
Avez-vous vu la nouvelle 007?
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le Sam 4 Juin - 14:15
la OO7 porte bien son nom,il aura 7 fois double 0=14 zeros!
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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Sam 4 Juin - 14:27
Mais ça, tout le monde le savait déjà : Pommette = 0 icon_razz jumper

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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Sam 4 Juin - 18:28
muku a écrit:Notre commentateur Japonais était optimiste pour BAR-Honda à Canada GP, mais, n'était pas trop optimiste.
Avez-vous vu la nouvelle 007?

ouahhhhh elle est splendide, sur les pontons les cercles de lucky stike sont différent ça donne vraiment bien et y'a pleins d'appendices partout.
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le Sam 4 Juin - 18:30
Erwinminator a écrit:
soichiro a écrit:on a pas "see" grand chose.
Justement ...
soichiro a écrit:donc plus de "wait" mais que du "see" et même plus, de la démonstration................
Où est cette démonstration ??? On a tjrs 0 point au compteur ... (chut, pas trop fort !!! colère colere2 faut pas que Pommette voit ça !!!) Mr. Green

si, imola on à vu pas mal de choses mais on connaît tous la suite. merci la FIA quand au début de la saison on sait très bien de quoi il en retournait, pour la démonstration ben je parlais au futur.............très proche.eeeehhhhhhhhhh
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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Sam 4 Juin - 18:46
On est déjà presque à la moitié de la saison et toujours ... que dalle ... Faudrait vraiment qu'ils commençent à taper un gros coup là, car il se fait tard ...

Mais je les sens bien pour eux aux States ...

Pour les décos, ils ont souvent été assez originaux, façon Jordan ... En tout cas, j'espère qu'ils n'auront pas le même destin ...

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le Sam 4 Juin - 19:36
J'préfèrais le BARcode moi. Avec les Look right look left.
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le Dim 5 Juin - 13:10
stef a écrit:J'préfèrais le BARcode moi. Avec les Look right look left.
Moi aussi !

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Re: Le rapport de Mr. Nakamoto STD

le Jeu 9 Juin - 4:42
Vol.55 ---- 9/6/05

We had a good feeling in the latest test.

In the previous European GP, the first come-back race, BAR-Honda finished with unexpected results -- two finished but no point. The next week, the team did testing in Silverstone and Monza separately and prepared for two races in North America and the races in Europe after July.

Nakamoto: This time, we did testing in two different circuits separately for the first time in this season. In Silverstone, we did mainly tire testing for British GP and in Monza, we concentrated in testing for the two races in North America with low down-force.
Honestly, we wanted to test in Silverstone on Wednesday and in Monza on Thursday and Friday. If so, race drivers could have tested both. However, the weather condition was bad in the UK, after all, we got to do testing irregularly in Monza on Wednesday and Friday, and in Silverstone in Thursday.

-- Did you figure out the cause of the tire problem in Nurburgring in the test?

Nakamoto: We could figured out how it was like "probably it was like this". The tires wearing earlier than we had expected happened not because of the certain only one reason, but the mixed elements.

-- We hope you'll do better race in Canada.

Nakamoto: It will be all right! It won't happen again that we have finished without point, I think.

-- Last year, you performed good in Canada and the US. So, is it not because of the course, but because the cars have been improving and have become competitive?

Nakamoto: Variously, we are improving. The engines that are version-upped this time are pretty good. In racing, they will be fast. In the test, we did 1,500km run and there's no problem in reliability. This time, I think it will be a big step-up.
In Nurburgring, we had to control in certain parts because of the 5 weeks old engines, though, in Canada, it won't be necessary.

-- So, did you control the rev in the race?

Nakamoto: Not in the race, but we controlled the laps in the free sessions. So, we ran only 500km+ total after the race.

-- Since you couldn't run enough in the free sessions, did it influence the car-settings?

Nakamoto: Yes, it did the tire choice. And also, although we had some new parts there, we gave them up because we couldn't do comparing test.

-- In Silverstone, Kimi was fast as usual, wasn't he?

Nakamoto: Yes, McLaren is fast. De La Rosa was fast, too.

-- Is it seem like that rival teams had improved during your two races absence?

Nakamoto: If we can make correct car-settings, we'll be able to battle with Renault. In this testing, we had a good feeling. In the previous race, we were inferior to Renault clearly, though, we adopted new parts and we figured out why we lost in Nurburgring. We'll never make the same mistake again. Anyway, we like to see that we'll finish with points in Canada and will be on the podium as soon as possible.


Mr. Nakamoto est trés optimiste!!! Je sens sa confiance avec moteurs!! hmm Is it really OK to trust him completely??? Rolling Eyes Embarassed Razz

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I sometimes write strange English, may be. Just ignore it and use your imagination better!! chinois
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le Jeu 9 Juin - 17:35
Encore merci Muku pour ces infos et interviews avec Nakamoto ... chinois

Il a l'air plutôt optimiste pour les 2 GP nord-américain et j'espère qu'il n'aura pas tord ! Mr. Green

J'ai hâte de voir ce qu'il en est réellement ...

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le Ven 17 Juin - 13:37
Vol.56 -- 17/6/05 Rd.8 Canada GP
The race went the way we had expected. We wanted to win a podium...

On the first day and the second day, BAR-Honda did their free sessions smoothly, and JB won his pole position after one year interval in qualifying. However, in the race, Taku retired because of the hydraulic trouble and also Button who was running on the third position crashed. They again finished the race with no points.

Nakamoto: We let Taku do pit stop, because his gear box's oil pressure went down. We transplanted test car's rear end in his car and let him go back to the course. Because we wanted Taku to have as late running order as possible in the next qualifying.

The direct cause of his final spin was that rear tires were locked. There was possibility that we didn't let the air out enough from hydraulic system. It's because we can't add any liquid to the car except fuel in racing because of the regulations. So, we couldn't add pressure to the hydraulic system. As a result, it became difficult for him to upshift and downshift, and then, he spun. We let him run with never-give-up spirit and do-whatever-we-can-do attitude, though...

Jenson couldn't reduce speed enough at the chicane, and got on the curb, and then, he lost the balance and crashed into the wall. This happened because he made a mistake at the previous hair-pin and his tires caught some dust on the surface when he ran out of the racing line and lost a grip. It was a bit pity.

-- Why did you take three stop strategy?

Nakamoto: Because we cared about tire and brake wear. We wanted to put more fuel as a strategy because it is a circuit where the weight effect to a time is small. But if we make the cars heavier, the rear tire and brake will wear harder.

-- In that meaning, was it correct that you cared tire and brake with three stop strategy?

Nakamoto: Yes, it was. We don't have enough reliability as McLaren have (they did 2 stop) for now. So, three stop was correct, I think.

As for Renault, we expected that their tires wouldn't keep, so, we didn't care for them so much although they were running in front. On the other hand, since we had known that McLaren would take two stop strategy, we expected that they were going to pass us later. And this happened exactly, too. The race went almost the way we had expected, so, we wanted Button to keep his third position and win a podium...

-- When you look at the pace in the race, you couldn't catch up McLaren, though, you had enough performance to battle against Renault?

Nakamoto: I can't say anything about it. As for tires, Renault chose the same ones as we did. If they had chosen harder ones, or they had adopted car-setting priority for tire reliability, they would have lost their pace exactly, though.

-- What do you need to catch up McLaren?

Nakamoto: It's simply downforce. I have to have more downforce. This time, we put downforce the most in our settings, though, it didn't enough.

We finished the race with no points again, though, we are not a team that finish a race without points as our potentiality. At this point, it was a shame. But, we couldn't help but chose the three stop strategy to keep tire and brake to the end of the race. This is current BAR-Honda's limit and we don't have enough power to win. Our situation looks like that we keep going forward step by step. But if a good chance comes during the progress, we'll go for a win of course.


HMMM... Mr. Nakamoto looks like something pessimistic... Sad
Soichiro had better sending HIS POSITIVE POWER to BAR-Honda. sunny
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le Ven 17 Juin - 16:56
muku a écrit:HMMM... Mr. Nakamoto looks like something pessimistic... Sad
Yep ... It's too late to catch up McLarens ... sbof
muku a écrit:Soichiro had better sending HIS POSITIVE POWER to BAR-Honda. sunny
Mr. Green Yeahh ... They need some Soichi brain storming ... Mr. Green

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le Jeu 23 Juin - 11:16
Vol.57 Rd.9 United States GP 23/6/2005
It was really a pity ending...

-- Did your engineers suggest "BAR-Honda is OK for our tires, so, shall we race?"?

Nakamoto: It was Michelin who judged the tires security and durability, not us, teams. Of course, we wanted to race and we did everything to recover tires.

-- If you don't run 73 laps actually, you won't be sure, though, do you have a vision that you could complete the race distance?

Nakamoto: I don't know. It's Michelin to judge it finally as well. It's the same thing as each engineer judge engine and chassis finally.

-- Was the cause a defect in manufacturing?

Nakamoto: They said that there were possibilities about it, though, looked like that they hadn't figured it out.

-- Was it related to high or low internal pressure of the tire?

Nakamoto: In general, if you have high internal pressure, such problem hardly happens. In fact, Michelin asked each team to put high internal pressure after the incident on Friday. It was the highest of what we had ever done.

-- Did you have an option to join the race with slower speed?

Nakamoto: As an option, I think we had it, if Michelin had given us the info that it would be safe. But it didn't happen.

But basically, racing driver's job is competing. If they have a car in front of them, they will push and if somebody pushes, they will run away. As long as they don't have speed limiter, speed will increase.

-- How about a chicane? There might have been a problem?

Nakamoto: No. If they had built a chicane at the bank, it would have been OK because the load to the left rear tire would have reduced. If they ran over 300 km/h at next straight, it wasn't a problem.

-- Didn't Michelin offer the numbers which km/h would be OK?

Nakamoto: NO. Even if they had given us it, it wouldn't have been kept because of the reason I mentioned in the previous sentence. However, it was really pity and it is natural that the crowd got mad. For us, it was an unexpected result that we have no points before starting mid season. We wanted to show our cars potential which are improving as a concrete figure...

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le Jeu 23 Juin - 17:19
Aĩe !


Il n'a pas l'air content le monsieur ... et il y a de l'être, à la moitié de la saison, toujours pas de points ... frapper colere2 En veut-il à Michelin ?



Est-ce que B.A.R-Honda ira passer au Bridgetone l'année prochaine ?


BTW, thx for the interview ... as usual, nice pic too ... Wink

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